In Part I of this series, I explained the benefits of buying aged/neglected sites directly from the original owners.  If you haven’t read that post yet, I suggest you skim through it.

Why don’t you tell me how to find these sites first?

Good question.  The logical chronology might appear to be: first find a site, and then estimate the traffic.  However this approach will waste a TON of your time.  There are literally millions of aged/neglected sites that get ZERO traffic.  We have no interest in sites that don’t get traffic.  Unless your target site is getting several thousand visitors a month, it probably isn’t worth your time pursuing it.

You should skip sites with under 1,000 visits/month for the following reasons:

  • It probably won’t generate much Adsense revenue.  An good niche will make $5 every 1,000 visitors if you are lucky.
  • You won’t be able to make an offer of over a few hundred dollars.  Most owners of aged/neglected sites probably won’t be convinced to sell their baby for $150.
  • Resale value probably won’t be very high.  You don’t want to be overpaying for sites.

This 1,000 visits/month limit will weed out most of the aged/neglected sites you’ll find on the internet.

So how do I estimate a site’s traffic?

The best way to determine the traffic that a website is receiving is through Google Analytics.  Unfortunately, not all websites have GA installed, and for the ones that do, odds are that the owners won’t be willing to just give some random stranger access to the reports.

So we have to rely on the use of some free online tools that will help us passively estimate the traffic a site is receiving.  I use the term “passively” because we aren’t measuring actual traffic numbers.  These tools are basically making a guess off of various indicators.  We’ll go over each one:

(Just a quick note: I use the “Free Version” for all these tools and it has worked out fine for me!)

Alexa Rank

“Alexa Ranking” is on a scale of 1 through 20 million.  For example, is currently 472,546.  This mean’s that I’m the 472,546th most popular domain on the internet.  There are exactly 472,545 domains that are more popular than mine.

Right now, has an Alexa rank of 1, has an Alexa rank of 2, has an alexa rank of 3, etc.

How it works

Alexa gathers usage statistics on sites through the Alexa Toolbar that millions of internet users have installed on their browsers.  The toolbar will display the alexa rank of the website you are viewing right in your browser.  I don’t have the actual Alexa Toolbar installed, but I have a Chrome addon that displays the Alexa Rank of every site I visit in the corner of my browser.

Simply put, Alexa knows which sites are popular because they can see what a handful of internet users are looking at.

Problems with the Alexa data

Alexa rank doesn’t estimate the volume of traffic a site is getting.  Alexa simply ranks the 20 million most popular domains in order of most popular to least popular.  Alexa rank can be used as a factor in estimating actual traffic though.

Also, the userbase of the Alexa toolbar is notoriously skewed.  It is by no means a “random sample” of internet users, so it isn’t necessarily an accurate representation of ALL internet users.  For example, Alexa users disproportionately tend to be interested in webmastering/computer/internet stuff.  You wouldn’t be interested in seeing the alexa rank of sites otherwise, right?

So when examining the Alexa rank of a site, be sure to ask yourself if it relates to webmastering, internet stuff, etc.

For example, when I bought, it had an EXTREMELY skewed Alexa rank.  I actually way-overestimated traffic on this one because the Alexa rank was so good.

Also, the data can be pretty far off for sites ranking over 100k – there are just so few datapoints on lower-traffic sites.

Compete claims to gather it’s clickstream data from a diverse set of statistically representative users, which basically means they don’t want to tell us exactly where it comes from.  In essence, the data probably comes from various toolbars/partner websites/widgets/programs with the compete software hidden in the source code.

Compete actually gives you an estimated number of unique visitors per month, and also provides estimates (and a cool graph!) for the last 12 months.

The data on this can be way off, but at least is a good indicator of the magnitude of traffic a site gets.  For example, doesn’t even come up on  Shoot.

A better example, (a site I recently sold) gets 9,863 unique visitors in the month of March, according to  JeepTech actually got 19,161 unique visitors in the month of March.  Off by a factor of 2!  Not too shabby.


Quantcast is similar to Compete in the fact that they aren’t too upfront about exactly where they source their data.  They probably have similar methods to  Another similarity is that Quantcast will estimate the site’s actually traffic.

Quantcast isn’t perfect either.  We’ll use the example before of JeepTech.  The most recent month that Quantcast gives us for is 12,030 “People” from 1/30/2012 to 2/28/2012.  Jeeptech actually got 18,258 unique visitors in that time span.  So again, not exactly spot on, but also not too far off.

One thing that I have noticed about Quantcast is that they really exclude most of the lesser-traffic sites from their database.  If the site gets less than 10k visits/month, it probably won’t show up on Quantcast.

SEMRush is a really cool tool.  It estimates a site’s Google search traffic.  If a site is receives all it’s traffic from referrals, it won’t get picked up in SEMRush.  Fortunately, we are looking for sites that rank well with Google, so this tool is right up our alley!

SEMRush works by searching Google for every keyword possible, and logging the results.  It factors in how popular each keyword is, and then aggregates the results.  When you look up a domain, it tells you the top keywords driving traffic to the site, the site’s rank for each of those keywords, and an estimate of how much those keywords are being searched.

For each domain, you’ll get 5 important numbers:

  1. SEMRush Rank – This is the same principle of the Alexa Rank – basically just how popular the site is.  The lower the number, the better.
  2. SE Traffic – This is an estimate of how many monthly visits the site receives from organic (unpaid) Google search.
  3. SE Traffic price – This is the estimate on the cost to buy the same amount of traffic strictly through Google Adwords.  It gives you a great insight into how high the CPC for the site will be.  A higher number means the site should get better Adsense earnings.
  4. Ads Traffic – This will tell you how much traffic comes from paid Google search.  If a site is actively buying traffic, chances are that it is not neglected, and not worth your pursuit.
  5. Ads Traffic price – An estimate on how much the site is spending on ads.  Again, this number should be $0 or you should probably walk away.

Ok, each of these 4 tools gives me a different number.  How do compile it all into one estimate?

I wish I could give you a simple answer.  Instead I’ll give you a few methods:

  1. Intuition – I’d recommend getting a browser add-on or plugin that shows you the SEMRush traffic estimate, Alexa Rank, Compete estimate and Quantcast estimate for every site you visit.  You’ll start to get a better feel for the numbers after a while.
  2. Compare to actual numbers – By the time I really streamlined my buying strategy, I had about 20 random sites that I owned.  I made a spreadsheet of the actual traffic numbers and the estimates from each tool.  I used this spreadsheet to see how far off the estimates usually were.  I could compare the estimates for my target site with the estimates AND actual numbers for sites that I owned.  If you don’t have a portfolio of sites already, just gather data from sites listed at Flippa.  They usually have their Google Analytics up for everyone to view, and you can easily gather the estimates from the tools listed above to start your own spreadsheet.
  3. Use the formula I developed by running a regression on my aforementioned spreadsheet.  This is going to take a whole extra post to explain.  We’re already at 1400 words for this post, so I’ll end here.

Actually, what the heck.  I’ll give you my actual spreadsheet for fun:

Click here to download my actual spreadsheet! This includes 3 iterations (the 3 tabs) of my estimates.  The newest is from mid 2010, so it is probably a bit outdated.  The fist tab “New Est Guide” actually includes a little tool to estimate traffic by literally just plugging in Alexa, SEMr, Compete and Quant data.

Now what?

At this point, you should hopefully have a firm understanding of how the 4 main traffic estimating tools work.  I’ve had individuals accuse me of lying on my Flippa listings because my Analytics don’t match’s estimates.  You should understand why those people are pretty ignorant by this point.

What’s great about these publicly available estimating tools is that they are abundant and free.  We are going to build a tool that automatically generates a traffic estimate for every single domain on the internet!  (well, almost)… This will help us immediately identify which sites we want to target without us having to go through every site manually (well, almost)…  Muhuhahahah!


I’ve done a lot over the last 2 years.  I was hoping to squeeze everything into one blog post.  That just won’t happen.  There is simply too much background knowledge and details I must explain.  If I tried explain everything in one post, it would be several pages long, and I would most certainly leave a bunch of important items out.

Anyway, let’s get to it.

Why Listen to Me?

Well first of all, I’ve got over $200k worth of website sales on Flippa: (You must be logged into Flippa to view this link) – Here is a link to all my previously sold websites:

I’m not some keyboard jockey, typing up useless guides for linkbait to my ad-rich blog.  I’ve actually gone out, done the work, made the money and am reporting my findings on the subject.

First, the Basic Earning Strategy

There are some total newbies reading this blog, so I’ll lay out the foundation before going deeper into the acquisition process.  The whole idea revolves around the business model of setting up websites, getting free traffic from Google, and monetizing the websites through Adsense or other affiliate/advertising sources.  Optimizing the site to rank higher in Google is a practice known as Search Engine Optimization, or SEO.  A lot of factors go into ranking, including keyword placement, backlinks and even site age.  Making money from a high-traffic site is pretty easy through Adsense.  If you don’t know what Adsense is, Google it.

I do a pretty good job explaining this in further detail in this post: How My Websites Make Me Money.

Why Aged Sites?

Anyone can go to and register a domain name.  It costs less than 10 bucks and takes less than 5 minutes.  You throw up some useless content, grab a few backlinks and hope for the best with Google.  Sometimes you’ll get a few hits, sometimes you’ll get none.  Either way, Google doesn’t really fancy new sites that pop up overnight.  Of course, I’m simplifying, but just know that it is easier to get traffic to a site that is already getting traffic than it is to a site that doesn’t already get traffic.  Duh.

When you buy an older site, you are getting a lot more than a domain name.  You are getting something that has been in Google’s index for a while.  You are getting a site that already has a ton of backlinks, backlinks that are OLD, and backlinks that are coming from other aged sites that Google probably views favorably.  The internet wasn’t overrun by spammers and scammers back in the day, and in general, quality sites seem to stick around longer than spammy ones.

Furthermore, aged sites seem to have more stable search engine rankings.  I’ve seen new sites pop up and then disappear, or get “sandboxed” by Google.  (Again, google it if you don’t know what sandboxing is).  Sites that are still ranking well with the same static content will probably continue to rank well for a while.  Sites that get a spike in traffic because a linkbait article went viral, aren’t terribly stable.  You get the point.

Lastly, if you are already receiving favorable traffic/rankings, you’ll be able to leverage that into new ventures with the site.  For example, starting a forum/community because the site already gets a ton of traffic.  Or ranking well for new terms because you are linking to fresh content on the homepage.  Traffic/rankings have a lot more potential than the immediate Adsense earning power.

You can find out how old a domain is by looking at the domain whois, or checking it out on the waybackmachine.  Domains that date back to pre-2004 are probably best.

Why Neglected Sites?

If someone is updating their website daily,  they are probably aren’t going to be interested in selling it for a reasonable price.  If someone set up a site 10 years ago and has since lost interest and/or completely forgotten about it, they are much more likely to cash out when you come in with a $x,xxx offer.

If a site is still ranking well, and it hasn’t been updated in 10 years, you’ve found your diamond in the rough.  (How can you tell if a site is still ranking well?  This will be covered in a later post)

You should keep an eye out for key indicators that a site is neglected:

  • Annoying background imagees
  • Ugly layouts/frames
  • The site has a “Webring” at the bottom of the page
  • The site has a “Guestbook”
  • Animated GIFs used in the layout
  • “Last Updated: (a long time ago)”
  • “Copyright: (2001, 2002, etc.)”

Generally, anything that was popular in webdesign 10 years ago, but is totally extinct today is pure gold.  Here are some “before” examples of websites which I did acquire (and eventually sold): (this one had some phone numbers listed, but just looked so terrible I still pursued it) (you need to scroll down and to the side to find the content)

A couple warning signs might indicate that the site is still in use:

  • Sites that have phone numbers/addresses listed.  (You can always call and hang up to see if the phone number is still good)
  • Sites that have a log in/sign up button.  (You can try signing up/logging in to see if it still works)
  • Sites that mention recent current events or are obviously updated recently.
  • Sites with a calendar that has future events listed in it.  (Sometimes you’ll find an “Upcoming events” section with the “Next Event” in 2003.  Score!)

At this point, you should easily understand the advantage of pursuing aged/neglected sites.  You should also be able to easily identify a site that is aged/neglected.

In the coming posts, we’ll be getting into how to actually find these sites, how to see if they are still ranking, how to determine value, how to contact the owner, how to complete the transaction, what to do with your new website, and finally how to cash out by selling for a profit.